Talk:Ivan/@comment-36312060-20181022225319

Yall this is literally Ein

They both manipulated for power, the only difference is that Ivan tried to kill Lucinda in MCD but failed, Ein didn't want to hurt Aphmau at first but then

(Plays ep 8 and Ein hitting Aphmau)

both are douchebags and have "friends" who follow them around, Ein being Jackson and Ryder (Who i ship) and Ivan had two buddies in lovers lane